Comments on: Do Websites Need To Look Exactly The Same In Every Browser? http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/ advice you can use to grow your small business Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:04:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Dawud Miracle http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-16851 Dawud Miracle Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:34:00 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/#comment-16851 <p><strong>Michael,</strong><br /> I hear you. I'm a one-man shop and could have taken on more projects with the time I've wasted chasing IE bugs.</p> <p><strong>Rob,</strong><br /> That would be nice. But it's just not possible. Even resorting to table layouts (bad idea, in my opinion), you still have the differences in monitor resolution, color, font-sizing and how font faces are displayed. We can get close, but never exact.</p> Michael,
I hear you. I’m a one-man shop and could have taken on more projects with the time I’ve wasted chasing IE bugs.

Rob,
That would be nice. But it’s just not possible. Even resorting to table layouts (bad idea, in my opinion), you still have the differences in monitor resolution, color, font-sizing and how font faces are displayed. We can get close, but never exact.

]]> By: Rob http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-16849 Rob Sun, 06 Jan 2008 23:20:48 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/#comment-16849 I think a site should look the same (as the designer intended) on every browser. I think a site should look the same (as the designer intended) on every browser.

]]> By: Michael Beasley http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-16806 Michael Beasley Sun, 06 Jan 2008 03:17:33 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/#comment-16806 My company would save thousands of dollars of man hours if the dang browsers were all the same. It's so frustrating. IE6 can go to..... My company would save thousands of dollars of man hours if the dang browsers were all the same. It’s so frustrating. IE6 can go to…..

]]> By: Dawud Miracle http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-16522 Dawud Miracle Wed, 02 Jan 2008 13:00:17 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/#comment-16522 <strong>Clement,</strong> I feel the same way. <strong>Brooke,</strong> Yeah, the difference in IE and other browsers is so often discussed. But I see far less on the the visual graphics side. Monitor resolution and size, graphics cards and color calibration all play such an important role in how sites are displayed. You can't believe the color difference I have with clients sometimes. I design a site in green that they see in gray. My monitors are calibrated monthly, so I have a really good idea what I'm seeing. So odd... Clement,
I feel the same way.

Brooke,
Yeah, the difference in IE and other browsers is so often discussed. But I see far less on the the visual graphics side. Monitor resolution and size, graphics cards and color calibration all play such an important role in how sites are displayed. You can’t believe the color difference I have with clients sometimes. I design a site in green that they see in gray. My monitors are calibrated monthly, so I have a really good idea what I’m seeing. So odd…

]]> By: Brooke http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-16426 Brooke Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:45:13 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/#comment-16426 I think like most everyone that your site should look good in browsers but it does not have to be the same. But there are some things that are very difficult to deal with.: It's not just monitors, text sizes, browsers etc that are different - it's also different versions of all of the browsers. I cannot make a site the same in all browsers and browser versions - can I? Thoughts? The clients - they are the one's in my world where they almost ALL use IE and IE is the only browser that matters. Should I be asking up front what browser thy want the site design for? Arrgggghhhh! I think like most everyone that your site should look good in browsers but it does not have to be the same.

But there are some things that are very difficult to deal with.:

It’s not just monitors, text sizes, browsers etc that are different – it’s also different versions of all of the browsers. I cannot make a site the same in all browsers and browser versions – can I? Thoughts?

The clients – they are the one’s in my world where they almost ALL use IE and IE is the only browser that matters. Should I be asking up front what browser thy want the site design for?

Arrgggghhhh!

]]> By: Clement http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-16416 Clement Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:05:02 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/#comment-16416 In my case, I think it illogical to desire that Websites must look exactly the same in every browser because each browser is different from the other. I do not have problems with browser as long as they display my pages clearly. In my case, I think it illogical to desire that Websites must look exactly the same in every browser because each browser is different from the other. I do not have problems with browser as long as they display my pages clearly.

]]> By: Dawud Miracle http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-16230 Dawud Miracle Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:23:20 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/#comment-16230 <strong>Nadim,</strong> I remember the days of creating two different sites - one for IE and one for Netscape. Personally, I'm not going back there. I think it's a huge waste of time - mine, AND a huge waste of money - the client's. For me, getting close is a better choice. Nadim,
I remember the days of creating two different sites – one for IE and one for Netscape. Personally, I’m not going back there. I think it’s a huge waste of time – mine, AND a huge waste of money – the client’s.

For me, getting close is a better choice.

]]> By: Nadim http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-16186 Nadim Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:58:35 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/#comment-16186 As far as the design of a website is concerned it is but obvious to make it look as similar as possible in most of the browsers... thought all browser's except for IE follow the standards so design for one browser will eventually cover up most of the browser's but for IE all it takes is to remake a whole new design just for people loving IE... and more over if the consistency in design is maintained ... i dont know about other but it feels satisfied to have them same over all the browsers As far as the design of a website is concerned it is but obvious to make it look as similar as possible in most of the browsers… thought all browser’s except for IE follow the standards so design for one browser will eventually cover up most of the browser’s but for IE all it takes is to remake a whole new design just for people loving IE… and more over if the consistency in design is maintained … i dont know about other but it feels satisfied to have them same over all the browsers

]]> By: Dawud Miracle http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-16166 Dawud Miracle Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:15:58 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/#comment-16166 <strong>Dining Room,</strong> Maybe monetizing isn't the point. Some people, especially those involved in web standards, just seem to want to get the message out about semantic code and css design. Maybe there's no other reason than sharing the idea with more people. I don't know. I only know it's a good thing that people understand that their site doesn't need to look the same in all browsers. <strong>John,</strong> Certainly. And, in my opinion, we need to pressure the browser developers to render the same. Let the differences in browsers be about load speed, features and user experience. It's easily possible. Microsoft, for instance, would just need to work a bit harder to have their authoring software and Word not create such wacky code. Dining Room,
Maybe monetizing isn’t the point. Some people, especially those involved in web standards, just seem to want to get the message out about semantic code and css design. Maybe there’s no other reason than sharing the idea with more people. I don’t know. I only know it’s a good thing that people understand that their site doesn’t need to look the same in all browsers.

John,
Certainly. And, in my opinion, we need to pressure the browser developers to render the same. Let the differences in browsers be about load speed, features and user experience. It’s easily possible. Microsoft, for instance, would just need to work a bit harder to have their authoring software and Word not create such wacky code.

]]> By: John http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-15992 John Sun, 23 Dec 2007 19:47:55 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/#comment-15992 I completely with you agree, but very much not many do not make it. After it we need to discuss not simply similar themes and to try to correct a situation I completely with you agree, but very much not many do not make it. After it we need to discuss not simply similar themes and to try to correct a situation

]]> By: Dining Room Furniture http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-15890 Dining Room Furniture Fri, 21 Dec 2007 07:30:17 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/#comment-15890 I stand corrected. The owner has managed to create quite a buzz around it. Thousands of search results in Google. But then again - I'd love to know what alternatives he has to monetize this in future. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. I stand corrected. The owner has managed to create quite a buzz around it. Thousands of search results in Google. But then again – I’d love to know what alternatives he has to monetize this in future. I’d love to hear your thoughts on this.

]]> By: Dining Room Furniture http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-15889 Dining Room Furniture Fri, 21 Dec 2007 07:24:47 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/#comment-15889 I really wonder how long the traffic flow will last. Just till the initial buzz I guess. Plus the domain isn't really getting monetized. And if the owner was to try to earn something out of it, I really wonder how many viable options he'd have with that domain. But then again, may be my thoughts are restricted and there is something I am missing. I really wonder how long the traffic flow will last. Just till the initial buzz I guess. Plus the domain isn’t really getting monetized. And if the owner was to try to earn something out of it, I really wonder how many viable options he’d have with that domain.

But then again, may be my thoughts are restricted and there is something I am missing.

]]> By: Dawud Miracle http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-15838 Dawud Miracle Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:13:34 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/#comment-15838 <strong>Laser,</strong> I would think to make the point that sites don't need to look the same in all browsers. <strong>Terry Reeves,</strong> I would hope to make a statement of some sort. <strong>Pest Control,</strong> Huh? Haven't seen it. <strong>software,</strong> That's my position as well. <strong>Dining Room,</strong> But is it really? Domains are so cheap and this page probably took an hour to build. Yet, look at all the traffic it's getting. Laser,
I would think to make the point that sites don’t need to look the same in all browsers.

Terry Reeves,
I would hope to make a statement of some sort.

Pest Control,
Huh? Haven’t seen it.

software,
That’s my position as well.

Dining Room,
But is it really? Domains are so cheap and this page probably took an hour to build. Yet, look at all the traffic it’s getting.

]]> By: Dining Room Furniture http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-15827 Dining Room Furniture Thu, 20 Dec 2007 09:06:10 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/#comment-15827 Need to? No. Should it? Preferably yes. And investing in that domain seems like such a waste of money. Need to? No. Should it? Preferably yes.
And investing in that domain seems like such a waste of money.

]]> By: software http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-15744 software Wed, 19 Dec 2007 09:56:18 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/#comment-15744 I agree that as long as both look good it doesn't matter if they are the same. However when they have not been checked in different browsers and one has graphics out of shape or position, then it does matter. Steve I agree that as long as both look good it doesn’t matter if they are the same. However when they have not been checked in different browsers and one has graphics out of shape or position, then it does matter.

Steve

]]> By: Pest Control RI http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-15701 Pest Control RI Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:29:08 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/#comment-15701 Brilliant. Reminds me of "Isitchristmas.com". Brilliant. Reminds me of “Isitchristmas.com”.

]]> By: Local SEO Specialist - Terry Reeves http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-15685 Local SEO Specialist - Terry Reeves Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:25:55 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/#comment-15685 Well Mr. LHR, why did you make your site? Well Mr. LHR, why did you make your site?

]]> By: Laser Hair Removal http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-15670 Laser Hair Removal Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:43:32 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/#comment-15670 Nice site name. Very different. But will some one tell me the reason for making this site. Nice site name. Very different. But will some one tell me the reason for making this site.

]]> By: Dawud Miracle http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-15837 Dawud Miracle Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:07:37 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/#comment-15837 <p><strong>Living Room,</strong><br /> Yeah, you hear about the IE difference all the time. And there's others...like the difference in how pixels are handled between a PC and a Mac.</p> <p><strong>DeepFreeze</strong><br /> Firefox, without a doubt, is better. Spread the word...</p> <p><strong>Stunna,</strong><br /> So true. That's the biggest reason I decided to use semantic code and css layout for all my designs beginning a few years ago. I'm not one of those web standards fanatics, though I see great value in keeping style and markup separate.</p> <p><strong>Simple Saving ideas,</strong><br /> I hear you. I had a similar experience with a client's site just the other day.</p> <p><strong>Techblissonline,</strong><br /> Not sure. Is it measured?</p> <p><strong>Seo,</strong><br /> I couldn't agree more.</p> Living Room,
Yeah, you hear about the IE difference all the time. And there’s others…like the difference in how pixels are handled between a PC and a Mac.

DeepFreeze
Firefox, without a doubt, is better. Spread the word…

Stunna,
So true. That’s the biggest reason I decided to use semantic code and css layout for all my designs beginning a few years ago. I’m not one of those web standards fanatics, though I see great value in keeping style and markup separate.

Simple Saving ideas,
I hear you. I had a similar experience with a client’s site just the other day.

Techblissonline,
Not sure. Is it measured?

Seo,
I couldn’t agree more.

]]> By: Seo http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/comment-page-1/#comment-15639 Seo Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:11:49 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/do-websites-need-to-look-exactly-the-same-in-every-browser/#comment-15639 it should be same in every browser,because we dont know what browser is the end user is using sometimes a good web design loose its value if we open in some others PC as we dont know what browser they were using. it should be same in every browser,because we dont know what browser is the end user is using sometimes a good web design loose its value if we open in some others PC as we dont know what browser they were using.

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