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		<title>By: Dawud Miracle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawud Miracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Jack,&lt;/strong&gt;
True. In my case, I do a little of each. So it&#039;s hard to be pinned down into one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Jack,</strong><br />
True. In my case, I do a little of each. So it&#8217;s hard to be pinned down into one.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack - life coach courses</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack - life coach courses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the years Iâ€™ve been a coach / consultant / advisor (Iâ€™m still uncertain what to call myself)  -- kinds funny but true.  you want people to understand what you do so you sometimes want the most popular term.  also thought you want to be called something you like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the years Iâ€™ve been a coach / consultant / advisor (Iâ€™m still uncertain what to call myself)  &#8212; kinds funny but true.  you want people to understand what you do so you sometimes want the most popular term.  also thought you want to be called something you like.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawud Miracle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawud Miracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 02:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Mr. Johns,&lt;/strong&gt;
I think there&#039;s a fine balance between &#039;allowing&#039; the client to stay where they are and &#039;forcing&#039; my direction on them. I think the best coaches/consultants sit in the middle and learn what their clients can handle.

Thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Mr. Johns,</strong><br />
I think there&#8217;s a fine balance between &#8216;allowing&#8217; the client to stay where they are and &#8216;forcing&#8217; my direction on them. I think the best coaches/consultants sit in the middle and learn what their clients can handle.</p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Johns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Johns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 21:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having performed a lot of consulting work I also have made the mistake of trying to force a client in the direction of a particular piece of advice of mine. 

One tactic I have used recently is to point out similar mistakes by the client&#039;s competition. I would gather that this is what &#039;Great Management&#039; is talking about. I agree with your assessment that you have to know the client. Some will take that as an affirmation that they&#039;re doing it the right way when they really aren&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having performed a lot of consulting work I also have made the mistake of trying to force a client in the direction of a particular piece of advice of mine. </p>
<p>One tactic I have used recently is to point out similar mistakes by the client&#8217;s competition. I would gather that this is what &#8216;Great Management&#8217; is talking about. I agree with your assessment that you have to know the client. Some will take that as an affirmation that they&#8217;re doing it the right way when they really aren&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawud Miracle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawud Miracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 04:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;GreatManagement,&lt;/strong&gt;
Could be the case. I guess I think each relationship is different and requires different tactics.

&lt;strong&gt;Tom,&lt;/strong&gt;
I think you&#039;re right. Yet there has to be a balance between allowing the status quo and &#039;forcing&#039; change. I agree with the above comments that you&#039;re paid to bring change. 

Thoughts?

&lt;strong&gt;Jared,&lt;/strong&gt;
I agree, actually. I think each relationship, however, requires a different tactic. The most effective leaders and coaches are those who can understand where their clients are and meet them there. Then begin to nudge them in a manner that&#039;s appropriate for their circumstances, need and personality.

No reason to push change when the client isn&#039;t open to it. Rather use different tactics to help the client grow.

&lt;strong&gt;Melody,&lt;/strong&gt;
It does, exactly. That&#039;s what I&#039;ve been saying in the comments above. There&#039;s no cookie cutter method for dealing with clients. You have to be fluid.

&lt;strong&gt;Robert,&lt;/strong&gt;
I agree in theory. But isn&#039;t getting there done in the action? If so, the actions may need to be different for different clients, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>GreatManagement,</strong><br />
Could be the case. I guess I think each relationship is different and requires different tactics.</p>
<p><strong>Tom,</strong><br />
I think you&#8217;re right. Yet there has to be a balance between allowing the status quo and &#8216;forcing&#8217; change. I agree with the above comments that you&#8217;re paid to bring change. </p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
<p><strong>Jared,</strong><br />
I agree, actually. I think each relationship, however, requires a different tactic. The most effective leaders and coaches are those who can understand where their clients are and meet them there. Then begin to nudge them in a manner that&#8217;s appropriate for their circumstances, need and personality.</p>
<p>No reason to push change when the client isn&#8217;t open to it. Rather use different tactics to help the client grow.</p>
<p><strong>Melody,</strong><br />
It does, exactly. That&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve been saying in the comments above. There&#8217;s no cookie cutter method for dealing with clients. You have to be fluid.</p>
<p><strong>Robert,</strong><br />
I agree in theory. But isn&#8217;t getting there done in the action? If so, the actions may need to be different for different clients, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Quick Takes - 5/3/2008 at Ray Fowler .org</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quick Takes - 5/3/2008 at Ray Fowler .org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 14:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Miracle shares the best advice on giving advice. &#8220;The true secret of giving advice is, after you have honestly given it, to be perfectly [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 09:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best advice about being a coach is that you are going to be teaching people, you are going to tell them how to achieve the best. You should have keen observation as a coach. Your coaching should identify the best and should be able to help them in achieving the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best advice about being a coach is that you are going to be teaching people, you are going to tell them how to achieve the best. You should have keen observation as a coach. Your coaching should identify the best and should be able to help them in achieving the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Melody Campbell, The Small Business Guru</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melody Campbell, The Small Business Guru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 07:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s gotta be a way to &quot;salt their oats&quot; - to appear indifferent but make them thirsty for change and think it&#039;s their idea.

How? I guess it depends on the client and what motivates them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s gotta be a way to &#8220;salt their oats&#8221; &#8211; to appear indifferent but make them thirsty for change and think it&#8217;s their idea.</p>
<p>How? I guess it depends on the client and what motivates them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared Goralnick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared Goralnick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dawud, I appreciate this advice and I think it applies very well when dealing with friends and loved ones.

However, in a business setting I think my clients are often paying for the hand-holding, the nudging, and my willingness to take a stake in their success.  If I go in and then leave, remaining detached, and don&#039;t offer my opinions when they don&#039;t take my advice, then my clients won&#039;t grow nearly as much as if I try to gently move them in the direction I&#039;m helping them to travel.

While the quote could be used as a rationalization, I know you&#039;re not using it that way.  I just want to point out that some of the greatest successes come from sticking it out to make an impact, even if you&#039;re just the outside consultant.

Great blog, look forward to meeting you in Chicago!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dawud, I appreciate this advice and I think it applies very well when dealing with friends and loved ones.</p>
<p>However, in a business setting I think my clients are often paying for the hand-holding, the nudging, and my willingness to take a stake in their success.  If I go in and then leave, remaining detached, and don&#8217;t offer my opinions when they don&#8217;t take my advice, then my clients won&#8217;t grow nearly as much as if I try to gently move them in the direction I&#8217;m helping them to travel.</p>
<p>While the quote could be used as a rationalization, I know you&#8217;re not using it that way.  I just want to point out that some of the greatest successes come from sticking it out to make an impact, even if you&#8217;re just the outside consultant.</p>
<p>Great blog, look forward to meeting you in Chicago!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Stine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Stine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant! One of the places I get stuck in my coaching is in wanting my clients to change. I want them to experience what I experience. But, ah, they are their own agents. I guess Richard Bach had it right:  if you love something, set it free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant! One of the places I get stuck in my coaching is in wanting my clients to change. I want them to experience what I experience. But, ah, they are their own agents. I guess Richard Bach had it right:  if you love something, set it free.</p>
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		<title>By: GreatManagement</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreatManagement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 06:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But what about those who donâ€™t really want to change?&quot;

I would tell them they are wasting their money and ask why they would want to do that?

That might spark them into action or we may have to part company.

Andrew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But what about those who donâ€™t really want to change?&#8221;</p>
<p>I would tell them they are wasting their money and ask why they would want to do that?</p>
<p>That might spark them into action or we may have to part company.</p>
<p>Andrew</p>
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		<title>By: Dawud Miracle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawud Miracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;GreatManagement,&lt;/strong&gt;
Yeah, I&#039;ve done that. It does work on some clients. But what about those who don&#039;t really want to change?

&lt;strong&gt;Steve,&lt;/strong&gt;
First, great to see you back. 

Keeping thing clear is essential in any contract. And I think it&#039;s even more important for coaches/consultants because often deliverable have more to do with intellectual information than actual things. So both parties need to be clear on what&#039;s expected, don&#039;t you think?

&lt;strong&gt;Akhmad,&lt;/strong&gt;
For the most part, I think you&#039;re right. It seems a bit disingenuous to just sit back and not prod the client to change when they&#039;re paying you to help them overcome their struggles. Yet, at the same time, I don&#039;t think there&#039;s one way that works for everyone. Don&#039;t you think that different types of clients, in different circumstance, need different approaches?

&lt;strong&gt;Jenny,&lt;/strong&gt;
Which part?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>GreatManagement,</strong><br />
Yeah, I&#8217;ve done that. It does work on some clients. But what about those who don&#8217;t really want to change?</p>
<p><strong>Steve,</strong><br />
First, great to see you back. </p>
<p>Keeping thing clear is essential in any contract. And I think it&#8217;s even more important for coaches/consultants because often deliverable have more to do with intellectual information than actual things. So both parties need to be clear on what&#8217;s expected, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
<p><strong>Akhmad,</strong><br />
For the most part, I think you&#8217;re right. It seems a bit disingenuous to just sit back and not prod the client to change when they&#8217;re paying you to help them overcome their struggles. Yet, at the same time, I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s one way that works for everyone. Don&#8217;t you think that different types of clients, in different circumstance, need different approaches?</p>
<p><strong>Jenny,</strong><br />
Which part?</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting.</description>
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		<title>By: Akhmad Guntar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Akhmad Guntar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not agree that we should PerFectLy indifferent whether our advice is taken or not. What really matter the most isn&#039;t that. We are not giving our advice based on nothing. We know what we are talking about. We are paid to solve our client&#039;s problem. Knowing that, we should PerSisT. Why? It&#039;s because we care. 

I see this issue have similarities with principle on public speaking; that it&#039;s about Giving, instead of Receiving. What it means is we should be fully aware that we are there truly to help. We are doing it with Passion that is based on Sincerity. But it isnt necessarily mean being indefferent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not agree that we should PerFectLy indifferent whether our advice is taken or not. What really matter the most isn&#8217;t that. We are not giving our advice based on nothing. We know what we are talking about. We are paid to solve our client&#8217;s problem. Knowing that, we should PerSisT. Why? It&#8217;s because we care. </p>
<p>I see this issue have similarities with principle on public speaking; that it&#8217;s about Giving, instead of Receiving. What it means is we should be fully aware that we are there truly to help. We are doing it with Passion that is based on Sincerity. But it isnt necessarily mean being indefferent.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Roesler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Roesler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really enjoying the conversation, Dawud.

Been a coach/consultant/advisor for 30 years and the thread here is the real deal. 

A couple of things that made me smile:

1. Coach/consultant/advisor. I still don&#039;t know, either. What I finally realized is that each client will simply call me whatever is comfortable for them. 

2. 90% of success lies in the contracting phase of what we do. If, in haste to do a gig, one doesn&#039;t take time to carefully define the elements,, someone isn&#039;t going to be satisfied. 

Keep writing. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really enjoying the conversation, Dawud.</p>
<p>Been a coach/consultant/advisor for 30 years and the thread here is the real deal. </p>
<p>A couple of things that made me smile:</p>
<p>1. Coach/consultant/advisor. I still don&#8217;t know, either. What I finally realized is that each client will simply call me whatever is comfortable for them. </p>
<p>2. 90% of success lies in the contracting phase of what we do. If, in haste to do a gig, one doesn&#8217;t take time to carefully define the elements,, someone isn&#8217;t going to be satisfied. </p>
<p>Keep writing. . .</p>
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		<title>By: GreatManagement</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreatManagement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 07:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Sell&#039; the negatives to spark them into action!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Sell&#8217; the negatives to spark them into action!</p>
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		<title>By: Dawud Miracle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawud Miracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;greatmanagement,&lt;/strong&gt;
But what do you do when they don&#039;t want to hear the positives?

&lt;strong&gt;Lisa,&lt;/strong&gt;
I&#039;ve always thought that if you actually learned something, it&#039;s never a waste of time. 

You never know what people hear or understand from what we say. What appears helpful to us may not be and vise-versa. All I know that is that often people hear more of how we deliver the message than the message itself. Have you experienced that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>greatmanagement,</strong><br />
But what do you do when they don&#8217;t want to hear the positives?</p>
<p><strong>Lisa,</strong><br />
I&#8217;ve always thought that if you actually learned something, it&#8217;s never a waste of time. </p>
<p>You never know what people hear or understand from what we say. What appears helpful to us may not be and vise-versa. All I know that is that often people hear more of how we deliver the message than the message itself. Have you experienced that?</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Rizzio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Rizzio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dawud,

I wish I&#039;d heard that quote long ago. I had to learn it on my own. I used to feel discouraged when people didn&#039;t take my advice. Like I&#039;d wasted my time. What I&#039;ve come to realize is that it doesn&#039;t matter whether they took my advice or not. The conversation still had value. The client has had the opportunity to talk it out, weigh options, get perspective, etc. Often they will remember the advice months or years later and wish they&#039;d taken it. Or maybe the conversation helped them stay strong in their own course which may have been the right thing for them anyway. There is always something of value in just talking about it. For both parties.

Lisa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dawud,</p>
<p>I wish I&#8217;d heard that quote long ago. I had to learn it on my own. I used to feel discouraged when people didn&#8217;t take my advice. Like I&#8217;d wasted my time. What I&#8217;ve come to realize is that it doesn&#8217;t matter whether they took my advice or not. The conversation still had value. The client has had the opportunity to talk it out, weigh options, get perspective, etc. Often they will remember the advice months or years later and wish they&#8217;d taken it. Or maybe the conversation helped them stay strong in their own course which may have been the right thing for them anyway. There is always something of value in just talking about it. For both parties.</p>
<p>Lisa</p>
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		<title>By: greatmanagement</title>
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		<dc:creator>greatmanagement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 06:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree. Some individuals are motivated by the positives and some by the negatives!

Andrew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree. Some individuals are motivated by the positives and some by the negatives!</p>
<p>Andrew</p>
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		<title>By: Dawud Miracle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawud Miracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;GreatManagement,&lt;/strong&gt;
I agree with you. I think there&#039;s a balance between forcing our opinions and making them clear. One way is to help the client understand benefits and detriments of their choices, don&#039;t you think?

&lt;strong&gt;Margaret,&lt;/strong&gt;
That&#039;s the stumbling I&#039;ve seen a lot - the &#039;right way.&#039; There&#039;s no right way. Yet there are ways that are more direct or less direct to the goals. That&#039;s where our expertise comes in, don&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>GreatManagement,</strong><br />
I agree with you. I think there&#8217;s a balance between forcing our opinions and making them clear. One way is to help the client understand benefits and detriments of their choices, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
<p><strong>Margaret,</strong><br />
That&#8217;s the stumbling I&#8217;ve seen a lot &#8211; the &#8216;right way.&#8217; There&#8217;s no right way. Yet there are ways that are more direct or less direct to the goals. That&#8217;s where our expertise comes in, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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