Comments on: Small Business Advice: Think More Creatively http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/ advice you can use to grow your small business Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:41:25 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Dawud Miracle http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-23075 Dawud Miracle Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:34:58 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/#comment-23075 <strong>kiz,</strong> So true. <strong>alex,</strong> I would normally edit such a comment that's just promoting products and not adding to the conversation. But I really like what you guys are offering so I'll leave this one. kiz,
So true.

alex,
I would normally edit such a comment that’s just promoting products and not adding to the conversation. But I really like what you guys are offering so I’ll leave this one.

]]> By: alex http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-23013 alex Thu, 29 May 2008 15:50:15 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/#comment-23013 Of course the best way of thinking outside the box is to actually work in one... See Shedworking at http://www.shedworking.co.uk Of course the best way of thinking outside the box is to actually work in one… See Shedworking at http://www.shedworking.co.uk

]]> By: kiz oyunlari http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-20818 kiz oyunlari Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:38:18 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/#comment-20818 Often when we speak or answer with more than one point, people — myself included — launch their response from the spark they find most interesting or related to their own experience. That, of course, can be most tangential to what you or I were orginially speaking about. Often when we speak or answer with more than one point, people — myself included — launch their response from the spark they find most interesting or related to their own experience. That, of course, can be most tangential to what you or I were orginially speaking about.

]]> By: Dawud Miracle http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-12526 Dawud Miracle Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:14:50 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/#comment-12526 <strong>Armannd,</strong> Great addition to the conversation, thanks. I'm as interested in chaos and quantum theory as I am consciousness. I see the intersection of the them as where science meets spirituality. Not religion, but spirituality. If you're still around, I'd love to hear your thoughts? <strong>Laser,</strong> Truthfully, it's all just names. I've just gotten tired of hearing people talk about getting out of their box, only to see them never really grow. Getting 'out of the box' isn't just about thought or belief - it's also about action. And while thoughts lead to action, action often displays our true thoughts. <strong>Dallas,</strong> How do you do that? Armannd,
Great addition to the conversation, thanks.

I’m as interested in chaos and quantum theory as I am consciousness. I see the intersection of the them as where science meets spirituality. Not religion, but spirituality.

If you’re still around, I’d love to hear your thoughts?

Laser,
Truthfully, it’s all just names. I’ve just gotten tired of hearing people talk about getting out of their box, only to see them never really grow. Getting ‘out of the box’ isn’t just about thought or belief – it’s also about action. And while thoughts lead to action, action often displays our true thoughts.

Dallas,
How do you do that?

]]> By: Dallas Office Space http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-12481 Dallas Office Space Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:16:20 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/#comment-12481 Great Post! Our companies mindset for the most part is to live outside box. We basically do the opposite of our competitors. Great Post! Our companies mindset for the most part is to live outside box. We basically do the opposite of our competitors.

]]> By: Laser Hair Removal http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-12124 Laser Hair Removal Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:48:28 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/#comment-12124 Thanks Dawud Miracle you have explained the term "live out of your box" so beautifully and so differently. I like the way you think different staying in the same box. Thanks Dawud Miracle you have explained the term “live out of your box” so beautifully and so differently.
I like the way you think different staying in the same box.

]]> By: Armannd http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-11964 Armannd Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:30:50 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/#comment-11964 I agree with you! But why replace "beyond our perception" with "outside of the box"? To me, that seems to be a rather silly and confusing idea... giving a new (pet) name to a concept that already has one. Simple is better, less names are better. Even so, the existence of our limiting perceptions exists only relative to everything else, and so limiting perceptions don't exist as such - so the "box" doesn't exist either. There are some people who managed to get out of their "boxes" completely. They can be found in psychiatric hospitals, insane asylums and similar locations... Not all insane people are "out of the box," but there are some who are. Yet they can't fly, walk through walls, or do any "incredible" thing... PS: I'm very tired at this moment, sorry if this doesn't make too much sense. PPS: Matter is nothing but the Wave Motion of Space. A Particle is a pointlike effect at the Wave Center. So from a quantum perspective, matter is all empty space - not just mostly. I agree with you! But why replace “beyond our perception” with “outside of the box”? To me, that seems to be a rather silly and confusing idea… giving a new (pet) name to a concept that already has one. Simple is better, less names are better.

Even so, the existence of our limiting perceptions exists only relative to everything else, and so limiting perceptions don’t exist as such – so the “box” doesn’t exist either.

There are some people who managed to get out of their “boxes” completely. They can be found in psychiatric hospitals, insane asylums and similar locations… Not all insane people are “out of the box,” but there are some who are. Yet they can’t fly, walk through walls, or do any “incredible” thing…

PS: I’m very tired at this moment, sorry if this doesn’t make too much sense.

PPS: Matter is nothing but the Wave Motion of Space. A Particle is a pointlike effect at the Wave Center. So from a quantum perspective, matter is all empty space – not just mostly.

]]> By: Dawud Miracle http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-11922 Dawud Miracle Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:01:47 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/#comment-11922 <strong>Armannd,</strong> I respect your opinion and can understand where you're coming from. Yet the box I'm speaking of has to do with your own, internal, limiting perceptions. Now, I don't know you...we've never met. Yet I would assume that you're bound by the same beliefs as most of us...you can't pass through walls, levitate, nor bend your bones like they're rubber, for instance. Yet, the reason we can't do these things, according to some spiritualist and quantum physicists is merely because we don't believe we can. In other words, we're limited in our perception. But from a quantum perspective, matter is mostly empty space. If this is true, why can't we pass through 'solid' objects? Because of perception, right? And it's the boxes of perception that I'm speaking about. Not just about 'extraordinary' feats like passing through matter, but much bigger and more complex. Our perceptions and beliefs limit us constantly in what we're capable of. That's why I say we can never escape the boxes. I have a feeling we're saying something similar. My approach is just that we can't move beyond our perceptions. And I'd love to hear more of what you think. Armannd,
I respect your opinion and can understand where you’re coming from. Yet the box I’m speaking of has to do with your own, internal, limiting perceptions.

Now, I don’t know you…we’ve never met. Yet I would assume that you’re bound by the same beliefs as most of us…you can’t pass through walls, levitate, nor bend your bones like they’re rubber, for instance. Yet, the reason we can’t do these things, according to some spiritualist and quantum physicists is merely because we don’t believe we can. In other words, we’re limited in our perception.

But from a quantum perspective, matter is mostly empty space. If this is true, why can’t we pass through ’solid’ objects? Because of perception, right?

And it’s the boxes of perception that I’m speaking about. Not just about ‘extraordinary’ feats like passing through matter, but much bigger and more complex. Our perceptions and beliefs limit us constantly in what we’re capable of. That’s why I say we can never escape the boxes.

I have a feeling we’re saying something similar. My approach is just that we can’t move beyond our perceptions. And I’d love to hear more of what you think.

]]> By: Armannd http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-11912 Armannd Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:32:11 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/#comment-11912 Want to know why no one ever gets out of the box? Because there is no box... The moment one is regarded by the society as "thinking outside of the box" is the moment in which one starts to THINK (without any boxes attached to it). The whole "box" concept is a nothing but completely wrong view of a basic problem. Also, I am almost certain that most people have forgotten (if they knew in the first place) the origins of "the box." Nice article by the way. Wrong and with a rather useless message (from my point of view)), but nicely written. Regards Want to know why no one ever gets out of the box? Because there is no box… The moment one is regarded by the society as “thinking outside of the box” is the moment in which one starts to THINK (without any boxes attached to it).

The whole “box” concept is a nothing but completely wrong view of a basic problem.

Also, I am almost certain that most people have forgotten (if they knew in the first place) the origins of “the box.”

Nice article by the way. Wrong and with a rather useless message (from my point of view)), but nicely written.

Regards

]]> By: Dawud Miracle http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-11510 Dawud Miracle Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:04:40 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/#comment-11510 <strong>Adam,</strong> Yet the point I'm making is that we can never really get "out of the box." It's not that we can't change, it's just that we're never, truly free from boxes in general. But that's not a bad thing. <strong>Carma,</strong> I hear you. And yet my point is that even when we 'get our of our box' we're simply stepping into another one. <strong>Jane,</strong> I think the tangents can be interesting...and I support them. And yet, sometimes it's nice to stay on the topic - especially when it's juicy. <strong>Blogging TIps</strong> Thanks. <strong>Chino,</strong> Yeah, and...I don't just see it as everyone doing the same thing. Rather, I wanted to open a conversation around what this phrase really means. Can we really live outside a box? If we're truly honest with ourselves, we'll always live in boxes - the boxes of our beliefs, our ideas, our limitations, etc. Heck, just believing we can live outside the box is a box itself. <strong>Headshot,</strong> Absolutely...the boxes are different. We each relate to things differently. And that changes with society, culture, financial status, etc. That's one of the things, I think, that makes this such an interesting topic - the unlimited ways that we live in boxes. <strong>Fred,</strong> You're welcome. I think you nail it. It seems everyone is trying to be different. But different from what? Personally, I'd rather be me...really truly be myself. Unfold my own inner truth and live it. Then it doesn't matter whether I'm different or not. Nor do the boxes matter, because I'm being authentic to myself. That's what I find important - far more important than being unique. I'm only unique if I am truly myself. Adam,
Yet the point I’m making is that we can never really get “out of the box.” It’s not that we can’t change, it’s just that we’re never, truly free from boxes in general. But that’s not a bad thing.

Carma,
I hear you. And yet my point is that even when we ‘get our of our box’ we’re simply stepping into another one.

Jane,
I think the tangents can be interesting…and I support them. And yet, sometimes it’s nice to stay on the topic – especially when it’s juicy.

Blogging TIps
Thanks.

Chino,
Yeah, and…I don’t just see it as everyone doing the same thing. Rather, I wanted to open a conversation around what this phrase really means. Can we really live outside a box? If we’re truly honest with ourselves, we’ll always live in boxes – the boxes of our beliefs, our ideas, our limitations, etc. Heck, just believing we can live outside the box is a box itself.

Headshot,
Absolutely…the boxes are different. We each relate to things differently. And that changes with society, culture, financial status, etc. That’s one of the things, I think, that makes this such an interesting topic – the unlimited ways that we live in boxes.

Fred,
You’re welcome. I think you nail it. It seems everyone is trying to be different. But different from what? Personally, I’d rather be me…really truly be myself. Unfold my own inner truth and live it. Then it doesn’t matter whether I’m different or not. Nor do the boxes matter, because I’m being authentic to myself. That’s what I find important – far more important than being unique. I’m only unique if I am truly myself.

]]> By: Fred Stopsky http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-11494 Fred Stopsky Sun, 30 Sep 2007 21:29:20 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/#comment-11494 It's always great to see people who are realistic and aware of reality. Over the past year I've spent what felt like millions of hours on MySpace building a social network for my business, and during that time I noticed something that seemed to be not so apparent to the almost 200 million users. I realized that almost every profile page and picture was the same. The same camera pose, the same life situations, the same self-proclamation of being different and unique. What made me laugh the most was the people who would lay claim to being "special" and then post a widget about "What celebrity do you most resemble" or "Which character from x are you most like." These people don't seem to realize that in their effort to be "different" they are really in fact, the same. Thanks for showing me that I'm not alone in my thinking though. It’s always great to see people who are realistic and aware of reality. Over the past year I’ve spent what felt like millions of hours on MySpace building a social network for my business, and during that time I noticed something that seemed to be not so apparent to the almost 200 million users. I realized that almost every profile page and picture was the same. The same camera pose, the same life situations, the same self-proclamation of being different and unique. What made me laugh the most was the people who would lay claim to being “special” and then post a widget about “What celebrity do you most resemble” or “Which character from x are you most like.” These people don’t seem to realize that in their effort to be “different” they are really in fact, the same.

Thanks for showing me that I’m not alone in my thinking though.

]]> By: headshot photographer los angles http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-11466 headshot photographer los angles Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:59:50 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/#comment-11466 I LIKED YOUR ANALOGY OF THE BOX. (NOT REALLY BEING ABLE TO COMPLETELY STEP OUTSIDE THE BOX)I AGREE THAT WE CAN REDESIGN THE BOX OR BUILD A BIGGER BOX. WHERE EVER WE ARE LOCATED. BUT THE LIMITS ARE DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON WHERE WE ARE LOCATED IN THE WORLD. (SAY CUBA OR THE UNITED STATES,OR GENERAL ACCEPTED RELIGION) THIS IS THE LIMIT THAT SOCIAL PRESSURES PUT ON US THAT CAN'T BE CHANGED EASILY. WE CAN CLAW OUR WAY UP (FINANCIAL) BUT STILL IT WILL ONLY BE A BETTER BOX! Todd I LIKED YOUR ANALOGY OF THE BOX. (NOT REALLY BEING ABLE TO COMPLETELY STEP OUTSIDE THE BOX)I AGREE THAT WE CAN REDESIGN THE BOX OR BUILD A BIGGER BOX. WHERE EVER WE ARE LOCATED. BUT THE LIMITS ARE DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON WHERE WE ARE LOCATED IN THE WORLD. (SAY CUBA OR THE UNITED STATES,OR GENERAL ACCEPTED RELIGION) THIS IS THE LIMIT THAT SOCIAL PRESSURES PUT ON US THAT CAN’T BE CHANGED EASILY. WE CAN CLAW OUR WAY UP (FINANCIAL) BUT STILL IT WILL ONLY BE A BETTER BOX! Todd

]]> By: Chino Yray http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-11463 Chino Yray Sat, 29 Sep 2007 15:39:37 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/#comment-11463 everyone thinks they live outside the box because they think different.. then they'll find out, everyone is doing the same thing. Everyone is trying to live outside of the box. I get your point. everyone thinks they live outside the box because they think different.. then they’ll find out, everyone is doing the same thing. Everyone is trying to live outside of the box. I get your point.

]]> By: Thinking outside the box | The Winding Path http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-11423 Thinking outside the box | The Winding Path Fri, 28 Sep 2007 05:53:47 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/#comment-11423 [...] As if that weren’t enough, it became even more interesting when Dawud responded by re-framing the topic with this explanation of why you’ll never get out of the box. [...] [...] As if that weren’t enough, it became even more interesting when Dawud responded by re-framing the topic with this explanation of why you’ll never get out of the box. [...]

]]> By: Blogging Tips http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-11385 Blogging Tips Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:17:34 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/#comment-11385 gave your site a stumble :) gave your site a stumble :)

]]> By: jane doe http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-11259 jane doe Mon, 24 Sep 2007 03:24:20 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/#comment-11259 My blog is such that I try not to make personal comments but to control the flow of information that is submitted to the blog in the form of posts and comments. I so get your point though. I just want to scream when I see the direction that some of the comments take. So often off tangent. A carelessly disposed of goldfish nearly became a debate against abortion. Arghh! My blog is such that I try not to make personal comments but to control the flow of information that is submitted to the blog in the form of posts and comments. I so get your point though. I just want to scream when I see the direction that some of the comments take. So often off tangent. A carelessly disposed of goldfish nearly became a debate against abortion. Arghh!

]]> By: Carma Dutra http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-11119 Carma Dutra Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:48:40 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/#comment-11119 Yes Dawud, building better and stronger boxes is one way to look at having a succesful life. However, boxes can be restrictive. Adam, too often our comfort zones deceive us because the word comfort is a good word so it can be difficult to think of a comfort zone as a negative position and a place to get out of. Does this mean that we have to be uncomfortable in order to succeed at anything? Should success bring comfort? Maybe the word comfort should not be used too positively. Yes Dawud, building better and stronger boxes is one way to look at having a succesful life. However, boxes can be restrictive.

Adam, too often our comfort zones deceive us because the word comfort is a good word so it can be difficult to think of a comfort zone as a negative position and a place to get out of.

Does this mean that we have to be uncomfortable in order to succeed at anything? Should success bring comfort? Maybe the word comfort should not be used too positively.

]]> By: Adam Kayce : Monk At Work http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-11114 Adam Kayce : Monk At Work Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:22:48 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/#comment-11114 Ditto Quint — we're really stretching the metaphor here. And, I totally agree with the point you're making. There is no spoon. I still like the "box" metaphor, because simply invoking it reminds us that we're thinking in ruts. Doing things in our "usual" way, instead of tapping into our creative potential to find solutions that maybe take us outside our comfort zones. It may limit our perceptions from time to time, but I'm okay with that. ;-) Ditto Quint — we’re really stretching the metaphor here. And, I totally agree with the point you’re making.

There is no spoon.

I still like the “box” metaphor, because simply invoking it reminds us that we’re thinking in ruts. Doing things in our “usual” way, instead of tapping into our creative potential to find solutions that maybe take us outside our comfort zones.

It may limit our perceptions from time to time, but I’m okay with that. ;-)

]]> By: Dawud Miracle http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-11103 Dawud Miracle Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:27:08 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/#comment-11103 <strong>Jean,</strong> Not so true for me. I wrote on a specific view on a topic and Alex chose to write about an aspect of my view. That doesn't mean I don't felt heard. Rather, I'm more curious what Alex - and others - think of the idea. <strong>Carma,</strong> You could say that's the purpose of life - to successfully and continually build larger boxes for ourselves, don't you think? Jean,
Not so true for me. I wrote on a specific view on a topic and Alex chose to write about an aspect of my view. That doesn’t mean I don’t felt heard. Rather, I’m more curious what Alex – and others – think of the idea.

Carma,
You could say that’s the purpose of life – to successfully and continually build larger boxes for ourselves, don’t you think?

]]> By: Carma Dutra http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/comment-page-1/#comment-11100 Carma Dutra Thu, 20 Sep 2007 05:12:40 +0000 http://dmiracle.com/conversation/why-youll-never-get-out-of-the-box/#comment-11100 I think the metaphor "think outside the box" is a good way to stimulate brain storming. But just so you know I did not misunderstand this post I will add that I like your analogy of us living in a box and the box just gets bigger or rather, redesigned. Yes I believe our life (box) has boundaries that we should not cross, like social ones, however what is more interesting is your comment about carrying our baggage with us no matter where we go. However, a time may come for some when it is time to dispose of damaged baggage. I once saw a box used as an analogy for life. There are two holes in a box. One at the top and one at the bottom. The only way into the box is through the bottom hole. Once inside the crowd of people is suffocating and as you travel upwards the crowds become thinner. (I bet you know where I am headed with this.) The purpose of entering the box is to get to the top successfully so you can pass on to a better box. Great post Dwaud. I think the metaphor “think outside the box” is a good way to stimulate brain storming.

But just so you know I did not misunderstand this post I will add that I like your analogy of us living in a box and the box just gets bigger or rather, redesigned. Yes I believe our life (box) has boundaries that we should not cross, like social ones, however what is more interesting is your comment about carrying our baggage with us no matter where we go.

However, a time may come for some when it is time to dispose of damaged baggage.

I once saw a box used as an analogy for life. There are two holes in a box. One at the top and one at the bottom. The only way into the box is through the bottom hole.

Once inside the crowd of people is suffocating and as you travel upwards the crowds become thinner. (I bet you know where I am headed with this.)

The purpose of entering the box is to get to the top successfully so you can pass on to a better box.

Great post Dwaud.

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